Years    ago Bob Talbert was a daily columnist at the Detroit Free Press. He    wrote about every day life in a fun and sometimes fascinating way. One    would just have to read a few of his writings to get an idea of what    life was like during the 1970's, 80's and 90's. My favorite of his    columns was his "Out of My Mind on Monday Moanin.' " This was when he    would break from the usual columnist format and just put snippets of    thoughts, comments, and information he would gather from the previous    week. It was a fun read and he would jump all over the everyday-life    spectrum. 
What I have done here was to gather bits of my own from blog postings that I have begun but never completed, therefore never published. So I copied and pasted the best parts of these unfinished articles and gathered them here, all in one place. I also threw in some of my own thoughts and quotes to add a bit more color.
Nothing of which you are about to read are connected except that most pertain to history in one way or another. That's their only connection.
In a way this is my own personal tribute to Mr. Talbert, who died back in 1999. I suppose you could think of this posting as sorta along the lines of outtakes from old musical groups or salvageable film that never made it to the theatrical version of a movie but have been released as extra's on a special multi-disc set.
Or not...
What I have done here was to gather bits of my own from blog postings that I have begun but never completed, therefore never published. So I copied and pasted the best parts of these unfinished articles and gathered them here, all in one place. I also threw in some of my own thoughts and quotes to add a bit more color.
Nothing of which you are about to read are connected except that most pertain to history in one way or another. That's their only connection.
In a way this is my own personal tribute to Mr. Talbert, who died back in 1999. I suppose you could think of this posting as sorta along the lines of outtakes from old musical groups or salvageable film that never made it to the theatrical version of a movie but have been released as extra's on a special multi-disc set.
Or not...
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As    one who has attended two  open-air museums at the same time that   Thomas  the Train happened to be there (GFV and Crossroads Village), I   can  attest that the  kids and their parents rarely venture beyond the    "Thomas" realm,  therefore receiving very little historical anything,    which is a shame. Here, parents have a chance to show children, in a    very real way, much of our country's history. But, no, they'd rather    keep the kids "where the action is" and hear Thomas stories    instead...such a shame.They just don't know how exciting history can be,    especially when presented by the docents of Greenfield Village or    Crossroads Village.
The    youth of today  have been raised with instant everything attitude  with   an expectation of being  entertained. I realize museums struggle  with   that thought and do understand the need to attract the youth  market. However, sometimes these hallowed places of history can't see the forest for the trees.
Here    is an e-mail I received from a friend on how modern museums are vying    to get more youth into their buildings by way of modern technology    (computers, kiosks, face painting, Thomas the Train, etc.):  "As one    of those in the... er... younger generation, I  can say that I for  one,   do not need all this technology to "entertain"  me at a museum.  I'd   rather see the items, or read/hear the 1st hand  accounts of  things   before my own century. I am part of that 'younger generation',     and I'm not that interested in history during the 20th century. When     given a choice, I will invariably pick much earlier than that."
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| My daughter enjoys computer inter-action at the Driving America exhibit inside The Henry Ford Museum. | 
Now...about Thomas...
I   like to think of this avocation of  putting on period clothing and    making the attempt to live in the early  1860's more as a part of my  life   rather than something to do on the  weekends.  As my friend Mike  put  it,  "Our time in the past is  interrupted only by our time in the   present."
Some say this expression was originally from sometime in the 18th century; while serving patrons, a barkeep in a pub or tavern had to keep a keen eye on giving drinks to paying customers and had to "mind his p's and q's" since the liquor was dispensed in tankards holding either pints or quarts.
Others say this expression was meant for the typesetter in a printing office to be careful when setting the type because the p's and q's could easily become mixed up.
So, which is it?
Probably both, if you ask me!
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James Cameron lived up to his perfectionist reputation during production of his movie, Titanic. The attention to detail became meticulous throughout the interior set design. Rooms, hallways, gangways, and decks were all exact replicas. Oak was used for the grand staircase and furniture, rather than more cost effective plywood because, if oak was used in the original, Cameron wanted oak too. The company that had woven Titanic's original carpet 1912 did it again for the movie. Crockery was authentic, down to White Star Line's logo stamped on each piece of cutlery. Deck heights and widths on the exterior were built to scale. Like the carpets, stage one's davits were also built by the same company that provided them to the original.
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 My    family and I have spent three out of the four times we have visited    Gettysburg wearing our period clothing the entire time we were     there...and it was not during a  reenactment. It is the only way to visit that historical place.
My    family and I have spent three out of the four times we have visited    Gettysburg wearing our period clothing the entire time we were     there...and it was not during a  reenactment. It is the only way to visit that historical place.
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Quotes worth noting from the diary of Rachel (Bowman) Cormany
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"September 29, 1859
After    supper we took a walk through the principle part of town, went into   the  museum then returned to the hotel pretty well tired, and soon found    ourselves easily fixed on the sofa and engaged in a tete a tete,  where   10 oclock found us before we were aware of it, then drawing out  his   watch, and seeing the time it surprised him..."
Notice    she wrote "watch" and not "time piece." Many in the reenacting world    insist on saying "time piece" and have told me that "watch" is    incorrect. 
Hmmm...not necessarily so.
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Here's another:
"April 26, 1862
This has been a rather sad day to me. My Sml. (her husband Samuel) has    another attack of dyptheria. Yesterday morn. when he wakened his   throat  was sore. still he went out to the sugar bush & worked  hard  all  day & did not take time to attend himself. he ate no  breakfast,   but ate dinner & supper."
Ahhh...another source for discussion is the dinner and supper exchange. Some say it's dinner    and supper, with dinner, eaten in the early afternoon, being the main    meal of the day, while supper - the evening meal - was leftovers from    dinner. Others say lunch and supper (or even lunch and dinner)    with lunch, eaten in the same manner as dinner mentioned above, being    the main meal of the day.
I   was  also told by my very elderly cousin named Bud, who knew and   remembered  my great great grandmother (who was born in 1858) that she   called the  afternoon meal dinner. However, while her father, a farmer, was working the fields, she would take a lunch out to him to eat. Bud told me that a carry out meal such as this was called a lunch.
In house was dinner.
In house was dinner.
That   does  make sense doesn't it? When Henry Ford worked the midnight shift   at the  Edison Illuminating plant in the 1890's he would eat at the Owl Night Lunch Wagon, an actual horse-drawn wagon which showed up for business at 6 pm and left by daybreak.
Owl Night Lunch Wagon was a carry out only joint - not in house.
Owl Night Lunch Wagon was a carry out only joint - not in house.
I suppose, however, whichever term for dinner or lunch is used could also depend on one's location...
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 My    family and I have spent three out of the four times we have visited    Gettysburg wearing our period clothing the entire time we were     there...and it was not during a  reenactment. It is the only way to visit that historical place.
My    family and I have spent three out of the four times we have visited    Gettysburg wearing our period clothing the entire time we were     there...and it was not during a  reenactment. It is the only way to visit that historical place.~~~~~~
I   had an interesting discussion with a  former co-worker fairly  recently:  his "grandfather-in-law" passed away  recently, and the  remembrances  flowed. The one memory in particular  that stood out was  how grandfather   flew bombing missions over Germany  during WWII...at  the age of 23. My  friend remarked, "By the age of 23  my wife's  grandfather had  flown six  bombing missions over Germany! I  couldn't  imagine that!"
And    neither  could the rest of us who were there, for to compare a 23 year    old  from 1944 to a 23 year old in today's society is like comparing     apples and oranges.
Somewhere,    somehow young adults stopped being  young adults. They stopped taking    responsibility not only for their  actions but for their life's    direction as well.
Maybe   because  they believe they live in the age of entitlement, asking "what   can my  country do for me?" instead of "What can I do for my country."
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Think of what you're saying.
You can get it wrong and still you think that it's all right.
Think of what I'm saying,
We can work it out and get it straight, or say good night.
We can work it out
while John plays a touch of the pessimist
Life is very short, and there's no time
For fussing and fighting, my friend.
I have always thought that it's a crime,
So I will ask you once again
This happens quite often throughout their body of work. That's why the Beatles were/are the best!
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Did you know that in the 19th century hollyhocks were planted around the necessary/privy/outhouse?    In this way, the respectable lady could say, "I am going to visit  your   hollyhocks" instead of saying "I have to use the necessary."
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One   great example of John Lennon and  Paul McCartney's ability to feed off   each  other in their songwriting  was in the 1966 tune "We Can Work It   Out." Paul wrote the positive   main body of the song
Think of what you're saying.
You can get it wrong and still you think that it's all right.
Think of what I'm saying,
We can work it out and get it straight, or say good night.
We can work it out
while John plays a touch of the pessimist
Life is very short, and there's no time
For fussing and fighting, my friend.
I have always thought that it's a crime,
So I will ask you once again
This happens quite often throughout their body of work. That's why the Beatles were/are the best!
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 Have   you ever tried a full-immersion  weekend in your own home? I mean, no   lights but candles or oil lamps,  no electronic devises at all to be   used, no automobile usage - walk to  the store for "provisions," no   phones...all the while in period  clothing?
It'd be interesting to see if you can voluntarily go from Friday evening until Sunday evening while in your own house immersed in mid-19th century (or before) living.
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If   someone tells me they are a history  major, that doesn't impress me a   lick. It only tells me that they  either borrowed or were given a whole   lot of money to get that piece of  paper that says they 'know' history. I   know so many who  are not college taught history majors who can and will  stand toe to toe with them. And sometimes pull out front!
You see, it's when that knowledge goes beyond the college text book by learning the whys and wherefores and getting into the mindset of our forefathers and foremothers that will impress me.
Unfortunately, most accredited history majors do not do this. But for those of you that do, however (accredited or not), my hat is off to you.
And   along the lines of the above moan, a few years back I spoke  with a   period dressed docent who worked at Greenfield Village, who   also   happened to participate in living history, and she mentioned that   an   accredited history major she knows made a general negative comment     about those of us who re-enact. She did not elaborate on what he said,     only that he alluded to the opinion that we were not to be taken     seriously; we are not true historians. In response she gave him a     double-fisted knock upside the head and let him know that, although     there are those who are just 'hobbyists', or spouses who only want to be     near their husband/wife and look bored, there are those of us who   take   this "calling" we have to bring the past back to life quite   seriously,   and that there are many more of us in this vein than he   might realize.   And those of us that do are every bit the historian as   those who have a   college degrees.
You see, it's when that knowledge goes beyond the college text book by learning the whys and wherefores and getting into the mindset of our forefathers and foremothers that will impress me.
Unfortunately, most accredited history majors do not do this. But for those of you that do, however (accredited or not), my hat is off to you.
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 I   have found that I am totally  turned off of the ultra-modern    contemporary churches. You know the  ones I mean: a full rock band    playing very hip Christian music during  service, and the use of  computer   technology to allow the dazzling  photos, lyrics, and  scripture to be   put on screens for all to see, a  very hip preacher - a  reminder (to me)  of  the television preacher -  ministering to his  flock.
I prefer a more traditional church service with traditional hymns played on a pipe organ and old-time preaching.
 

Are you surprised?
I thought not!
My    daughter and I were watching a "Little House on the Prairie" episode -     the one where Mary Ingalls travels to a town 40 miles from her home   to   be a teacher, and the town doesn't accept her. Anyhow, toward the   end,   Mary's character recites scripture from memory. That so  impressed  my   daughter! She told me that she, too, wanted to be able  to memorize  and   recite bible quotes. So, on our own, she and I have  begun a   father/daughter  bible study. 
Just thought I'd throw this in.
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My   wife and I - and many others in our  circle of Civil War reenacting    friends - speak quite frequently about  time-travel. Some truly believe    it can happen and that we just haven't  found the means to accomplish  it.   Others feel that the past still  exists but on another plane...or    level...and that could also be the  cause of ghostly sightings in  older   buildings and historic places;  that they're not necessarily  ghosts, just   folks that still exist but  in another era, living their  lives, so to   speak, oblivious to us here  on this future plane.
My opinion? Well, it's right here in an earlier posting I wrote from a couple years ago.
What do you think?
What do you think?
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When I was a kid and I saw old photographs, whether in a history book or from and old family album, I saw...old pictures.
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If this were 1862 instead of 2012 - - - -
my birth year would have been 1811
My wife would have been born in 1815
We would have been married in 1835
My oldest son: 1838
My 2nd son: 1841
My 3rd son: 1845
My daughter: 1850
 
My father: 1777
My mother: 1779
My oldest brother: 1800
My oldest sister: 1802
My 2nd oldest sister: 1804
My 2nd oldest brother: 1808
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| Ladies of the 1850's | 
That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.
But,     as I began to study social history and learn more of the people that     lived in another era - research their everyday living habits - these     pictures, all of a sudden, came to life for me. I saw more than just  an    image of some man or woman or little kid who was probably old and   dead   now...I saw a living, breathing human, one with thoughts,  hopes,   dreams,  and fears - not unlike my own. These pictures began to  mean   something  to me, far more than I could have ever imagined.
Why do folks leave their homes "to get away" and then turn their "get-away" into what they just left?
Why     do they want to live "out in the country" only to spend their time     shopping in the big-city-type malls instead of living the country  life?
Why    do people that  want to live and to give their children a better life    move out of a  rough area and yet bring - or allow others of their ilk    to bring -  that rough culture with them?
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If this were 1862 instead of 2012 - - - -
my birth year would have been 1811
My wife would have been born in 1815
We would have been married in 1835
My oldest son: 1838
My 2nd son: 1841
My 3rd son: 1845
My daughter: 1850

My father: 1777
My mother: 1779
My oldest brother: 1800
My oldest sister: 1802
My 2nd oldest sister: 1804
My 2nd oldest brother: 1808
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Why do people insist on thinking that the Disney historical movies (or most    Hollywood history movies for that matter) are historically accurate?     Really? As much as I enjoy such movies as The Patriot and Braveheart     (much in the same was as I enjoy cowboy movies), I don't take them  for    their historical accuracies. 
By the way, men from the 1870's did not dress like the Charles Ingalls on the "Little House on the Prairie" TV show. 
And finally, for you living historians, here is something fun to do if you find yourself bored:
While dressed in period clothing, run into a store and ask what year it is. When someone answers, yell "It Worked!" and run our cheering.

 
3 comments:
I'm so glad you put this assortment of thoughts together. It's a great start to my week!
Ken, this was so much fun to read! I see snippets of stories you did publish, but maybe omitted or altered. I am going to start using the "I am going to visit your hollyhocks" quote! I also love your final suggestion about running into a store, etc. You are quite an engaging writer, and even though I'm not a reenactor or Civil War aficionado, I really enjoy reading your thoughts and insights.
-Pam
Thanks Lenette!
Pam - you have a sharp memory. You are correct that a couple of the snippets found their way into my postings, but in an altered form as you stated.
Thank you for the kind comments.
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