~I came upon the idea for this posting while reading an older post.~
...updated August 2024...
...updated August 2024...
I seem to go through sort of melancholy phases quite often due to so many changes
going on all around me, whether personal changes in my growing family or the societal changes I'm living in. And, as a living historian, and a historian in general, I find myself oftentimes nostalgic for an era I vaguely remember from long ago, and sometimes even for a time no longer here - of a time I was not actually a part of...
But how can that be?
Is that true nostalgia?
I suppose you will just have to read this post to understand what I mean.
(Now, please do not send me nasty comments telling me to "get over it," "accept the here and now," "live for today," "you need to get out of the past," "I suppose you want slavery back," and all the other bile
I sometimes receive when I write in such a manner as this. And there's also no need to politicize something that isn't political).
Thank you~~(you can tell I've been down this road before lol)
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I've been a bit melancholy, and when I get this way my thoughts tend to wander in many different directions, especially down the nostalgic trail.
An autumn scene right out of 1760. Yeah, I was there... |
That would mean nostalgia is a very personal experience then, does it not? And according to the above definition, only those who actually experienced the time period first-hand actually have the right to feel an attachment to it.
However, I once read that "Nostalgia is portable," meaning, as I see it, that perhaps it can be possible to feel a sentimental attachment to a time period one did not personally live through.
Hmmm...but that's not according to definition - - how can that be?
If nostalgia truly is portable, is it possible, then, that those of us who reenact the past, frequently visit historical living history museums, or maybe even read extensively about a time from before we were born to experience these same nostalgic emotions? I mean, it's pretty obvious that I was not around during the horse-and-carriage days, and yet I still have a sort of nostalgic feeling for those times.
...and I was also in 1882. |
~Maybe it's because I have been witnessing daily life of the 18th and 19th centuries while visiting the historical open-air museums of Greenfield Village and Crossroads Village quite frequently - sometimes multiple times a week - for over 40 years, intently watching and sometimes even taking part in the everyday activities of long ago.
Here I am taking part in the oh-so-important farming activity of plowing. Yeah...that's me holding the plow behind the horses... |
I mean, when one thinks about it, if I added up each day I spend reenacting and include the times I visit open-air museums, I am immersed in the past an awful lot, aren't I?
So, with taking everything into account, does this mean that I can actually feel a sort of Webster definition of nostalgia for times long past - real memories of a time before my time, though it occurred in my time?
Does that make sense?
How about my children, each of whom, since birth, have attended colonial and Civil War reenactments (before participation and after), visited v-e-r-y often the above mentioned museums and witnessed almost weekly people in period clothing performing the historical activities of horse-drawn plowing, milking cows, caring for chickens, winnowing, spinning wool into yarn, riding in carriages, on steamboats, and on trains, picnicking near a covered bridge...
Then there are the many, many summertime weekends in the small 19th century-built American town of Lexington (Michigan), where such things as visiting a general store that has a mix of old and new items (including penny candy), an old stagecoach stop turned into a restaurant that still keeps its period appearance, catching pollywogs at the creek, bonfires at night, and extremely little TV watching, were all commonplace.
Wouldn't you say this is pretty old-timey stuff?
Just ask a typical pre-teen today how much of what I just mentioned they themselves experienced; I can practically guarantee most have not...ever (unless their your child, right? Because chances are, if you're reading this, you and I have a very similar mindset).
With all of this, can they be nostalgic for eras beyond their own time?
We have also visited a restored colonial village, Colonial Williamsburg, where we were virtually surrounded and immersed in a time 250 years ago due to every building in the area being of the period.
And those who work for the foundation, no matter what part or role they may portray (from store-keep to gardener), all are dressed in the fashions of the 1770s, and many pretty much keep period in their conversations.
One of her passions, for instance, is spinning wool into yarn using her spinning wheel.
In fact, she sometimes spends weeks picking through and cleaning multiple 30-gallon garbage bags of raw wool she receives from sheep-owning friends. I mean raw wool, for it has sheep poop, hay, grass, sticks, and dirt, imbedded in it.
Again, just as folks did 150-plus years ago.
And this mill (Zeilingers) uses carding machines of the 19th century:
Patty also loves to sit on our front porch or in our backyard and spin on her spinning wheel, not only because it relaxes her, but because she loves to crochet as well, and the idea of "sheep to shawl" is very appealing to her. She has crochet mittens, scarves, shawls, sontags, hats, afghans, and just about anything else you can think of.
She really gets a kick out of having total strangers out for a walk come up to our porch to watch her do this traditional craft. One just doesn't see spinning on a spinning wheel very often in the suburbs these days...or anywhere else aside from museums!
Are we a match made in heaven or what?
And our kids?
Well, our oldest, though very contemporary, still embodies the spirit of the past in his life; besides reenacting as a teen and young adult, Tom plays guitar and sings in various period vocal music groups as well as a more contemporary band. He raises chickens and grows his own vegetables while preferring a traditional style of planting his heirloom seeds as shown in this book he received for Christmas, Vegetable Gardening the Colonial Williamsburg Way - 18th Century Methods for Today's Organic Gardners, over the more modern methods. He's also spent time caring for another friend's farm while said friend was out of town for a few weeks.
My next eldest son, Robert, has taken to historical reenacting in the same fervent manner as I have; he is constantly researching and reading to help bring the past to life. He does Civil War and Revolutionary War and is mentored by the best of the best.
I have two younger children: son #3 has Aspergers Syndrome, which is in the autism family, and his interests lie in different directions, but yet often still historical. For instance, he loves visiting the old lighthouses that dot Michigan's shorelines, and, with Michigan being the state with the most lighthouses in the U.S., we make it a point to try and visit at least a different one every year if we can.
He is a major WWII movie fan as well.
My youngest child - my daughter - enjoys the life of a young adult with her latest technology and the giddiness that a 21st century girl usually has. But she can also knit, crochet, spin on a spinning wheel, sew, and tell you of life during the 19th century. She can also sing along with such well-known period tunes as Shady Grove, Wayfaring Stranger, Johnny Has Gone For a Soldier, and Some Folks Do.
Ha! When she was 16 she had a beeswax candle dipping party with her friends - all around the same age as her - and taught them the colonial way of creating 18th century lighting. In fact, I also hold candle dipping parties and she rarely misses them.
All four of my children consider Greenfield Village the 'place they grew up' - kind of like their 'old neighborhood,' for aside from the rural Lexington visits, Greenfield Village is the place they've been to most that has given them the most past experiences.
And each has a respect for and an understanding of the past.
The best of two very different worlds.
Oh, you bet I am proud!
HERE)
So guess what?
We now have grandkids.
How about my children, each of whom, since birth, have attended colonial and Civil War reenactments (before participation and after), visited v-e-r-y often the above mentioned museums and witnessed almost weekly people in period clothing performing the historical activities of horse-drawn plowing, milking cows, caring for chickens, winnowing, spinning wool into yarn, riding in carriages, on steamboats, and on trains, picnicking near a covered bridge...
Then there are the many, many summertime weekends in the small 19th century-built American town of Lexington (Michigan), where such things as visiting a general store that has a mix of old and new items (including penny candy), an old stagecoach stop turned into a restaurant that still keeps its period appearance, catching pollywogs at the creek, bonfires at night, and extremely little TV watching, were all commonplace.
Wouldn't you say this is pretty old-timey stuff?
Just ask a typical pre-teen today how much of what I just mentioned they themselves experienced; I can practically guarantee most have not...ever (unless their your child, right? Because chances are, if you're reading this, you and I have a very similar mindset).
With all of this, can they be nostalgic for eras beyond their own time?
We have also visited a restored colonial village, Colonial Williamsburg, where we were virtually surrounded and immersed in a time 250 years ago due to every building in the area being of the period.
My wife and I walking down an 18th century street in Williamsburg. Yes, we had the same experience as one may have had 240 years ago, did we not? |
One of her passions, for instance, is spinning wool into yarn using her spinning wheel.
In fact, she sometimes spends weeks picking through and cleaning multiple 30-gallon garbage bags of raw wool she receives from sheep-owning friends. I mean raw wool, for it has sheep poop, hay, grass, sticks, and dirt, imbedded in it.
Again, just as folks did 150-plus years ago.
And this mill (Zeilingers) uses carding machines of the 19th century:
Carding machines at the Carding Mill in Frankenmuth |
Patty also loves to sit on our front porch or in our backyard and spin on her spinning wheel, not only because it relaxes her, but because she loves to crochet as well, and the idea of "sheep to shawl" is very appealing to her. She has crochet mittens, scarves, shawls, sontags, hats, afghans, and just about anything else you can think of.
She really gets a kick out of having total strangers out for a walk come up to our porch to watch her do this traditional craft. One just doesn't see spinning on a spinning wheel very often in the suburbs these days...or anywhere else aside from museums!
Are we a match made in heaven or what?
And our kids?
Well, our oldest, though very contemporary, still embodies the spirit of the past in his life; besides reenacting as a teen and young adult, Tom plays guitar and sings in various period vocal music groups as well as a more contemporary band. He raises chickens and grows his own vegetables while preferring a traditional style of planting his heirloom seeds as shown in this book he received for Christmas, Vegetable Gardening the Colonial Williamsburg Way - 18th Century Methods for Today's Organic Gardners, over the more modern methods. He's also spent time caring for another friend's farm while said friend was out of town for a few weeks.
My next eldest son, Robert, has taken to historical reenacting in the same fervent manner as I have; he is constantly researching and reading to help bring the past to life. He does Civil War and Revolutionary War and is mentored by the best of the best.
I have two younger children: son #3 has Aspergers Syndrome, which is in the autism family, and his interests lie in different directions, but yet often still historical. For instance, he loves visiting the old lighthouses that dot Michigan's shorelines, and, with Michigan being the state with the most lighthouses in the U.S., we make it a point to try and visit at least a different one every year if we can.
He is a major WWII movie fan as well.
Here is my third son very happily getting his photo taken near the Port Sanilac Lighthouse, which was built in 1886. He hates having his picture taken but willingly does at each lighthouse we visit. |
My youngest child - my daughter - enjoys the life of a young adult with her latest technology and the giddiness that a 21st century girl usually has. But she can also knit, crochet, spin on a spinning wheel, sew, and tell you of life during the 19th century. She can also sing along with such well-known period tunes as Shady Grove, Wayfaring Stranger, Johnny Has Gone For a Soldier, and Some Folks Do.
Ha! When she was 16 she had a beeswax candle dipping party with her friends - all around the same age as her - and taught them the colonial way of creating 18th century lighting. In fact, I also hold candle dipping parties and she rarely misses them.
All four of my children consider Greenfield Village the 'place they grew up' - kind of like their 'old neighborhood,' for aside from the rural Lexington visits, Greenfield Village is the place they've been to most that has given them the most past experiences.
And each has a respect for and an understanding of the past.
The best of two very different worlds.
Oh, you bet I am proud!
HERE)
So guess what?
We now have grandkids.
Guess what else?
Yep---we do traditional activities with them, including...
Methinks they, too, will have old-time traditional memories...not only similar to their father and grandparents, but the same as those from the distant past.
Yep---we do traditional activities with them, including...
...apple picking... |
...working on a shaving horse... |
...processing flax... |
...and dipping candles... |
Nostalgia?
So...after reading what I wrote here, and knowing that my family and I have many of the same memories that the people of the 18th and 19th centuries had, can we be nostalgic for that period in time?
Is nostalgia really portable?
To add to this thought, maybe there is also a sense of longing as well...
Longing is defined as a strong, persistent desire or craving, especially for something unattainable or distant.
"Unattainable or distant?"
Because of what I wrote in this post, experiencing a time long past has not necessarily been unattainable or distant, has it?
And maybe...just maybe...I do have a nostalgic longing for times before my own time, even if it's only through experience, because many memories would still be the same.
Maybe nostalgia really is portable.
What are your thoughts?
P.S. I realize this posting goes off the beaten path for me. Nostalgia and longing both are a yearning, though for the good times, not the bad. Please note that I do understand this.
Thoughts enter my head and, well, sometimes these thoughts form into something much bigger, such as this post - - - nothing earth shattering, mind you, just something a bit out-of-the-ordinary such as what you've just read.
If nothing else I hope I was able to take you away on a different road for a few minutes.
And I hope you enjoyed some of the older photos of my family. Looking at them also made me nostalgic!
Is nostalgia really portable?
To add to this thought, maybe there is also a sense of longing as well...
Longing is defined as a strong, persistent desire or craving, especially for something unattainable or distant.
"Unattainable or distant?"
Because of what I wrote in this post, experiencing a time long past has not necessarily been unattainable or distant, has it?
And maybe...just maybe...I do have a nostalgic longing for times before my own time, even if it's only through experience, because many memories would still be the same.
Maybe nostalgia really is portable.
What are your thoughts?
P.S. I realize this posting goes off the beaten path for me. Nostalgia and longing both are a yearning, though for the good times, not the bad. Please note that I do understand this.
Thoughts enter my head and, well, sometimes these thoughts form into something much bigger, such as this post - - - nothing earth shattering, mind you, just something a bit out-of-the-ordinary such as what you've just read.
If nothing else I hope I was able to take you away on a different road for a few minutes.
And I hope you enjoyed some of the older photos of my family. Looking at them also made me nostalgic!
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Yes I believe you can be nostalgic over any time period that "suits your fancy" I don't see anything wrong with that. If a person feels very comfortable acting out and living close to a certain period in histor go for it! Hey, Trekkies act out a time way in the future as do those Star Wars guys. Was that Lorenz Musket expensive? I thought it was "Dickensonian" *Cheers* -Jimio
ReplyDeleteWell I've been feeling 'nostalgic' in the last few weeks myself. And melancholic. Been reading historical letters of one family over the last few months and perhaps that's also getting to me.
ReplyDeleteFor with each one fascinating fact I retrieve from them, I'm reading an awful lot of misery going on in the lives of this family from the 1850's on to the 20th century.
The common thread other than family and economical issues, and seemingly hopeless situations...all made a point of stating..."better times coming." That concept is all they had to hang onto and keep going.
I'm certainly going to attempt to apply it to my own life from now on.
And this sentimentality I have for the Victorian era, along with feeling completely misplaced in time, reminds me of the movie "Midnight in Paris", about the fellow who yearns to be transported back to the Roaring 20's...and his fantasy fulfilled; wherein he finds his new 20's acquaintances long equally to be transported to the Gay 90's.
I guess this sentimentality for simpler times is historically accurate!
I think you can be nostalgic for what you dream and imagine. It's why people try to bring history back to life and many people are curious to see it, even if they don't want to live it.
ReplyDeleteI spent many days as a child playing "in history" with my American Girl doll. What group of boys didn't play "cowboys and indians?" This nostalgia is very portable. Not to mention how you live in history by reading first person accounts and reenacting.
I think it is very natural, especially in times like these, to want to go back to a time, when neighbors helped each other out (even if they didn't always get along) and people weren't just a replaceable random number. Imagine a grocer forwarding you some veggies because he knows your family is on hard times or a banker giving an extension because you went to school together as kids.
I sort of think nostalgia is remembering the good while forgetting the bad. I know this to be true, but I do still get very nostalgic. I fear that melancholia has been affecting many of us recently. I hope things improve for you.
Jimio - The Lorenz musket was pretty expensive. It took my son 6 months to pay for it.
ReplyDeleteRobin - "Better Times Are Coming" is a wonderful song by Stephen Foster (I think).
Funny...I believe had I been born in the 19th century, I'm sure I would have wanted to live in the 18th century. Just the way my brain is wired I suppose...I'll have to check out Midnight in Paris.
Mary - Your welcome! I truly am missing your postings and photos by the way!
Stephanie Ann - I appreciate your sentiment. Like Robin, I do believe that Better Times are Coming, but the common thread here between all of us id that Better Times may not be modern times...
Thank you all for taking the time to comment. Each comment means a lot to me. It really does.
I love your "first posed family photo"! It looks so hopeful and says a lot about your family today too. I think it is the time of year for melancholy and introspection, but Spring will arrive. it must.
ReplyDeleteI don't reenact (I have in the past, moved to a place that doesn't do it and interest in what era was refined), but it can happen even without immersion.
ReplyDeleteMy real interest hits sometime between 1915 and 1935 (fashion history is a bit more varied, however). After moving to a rural area where my SO provides me with a life I can enjoy and not have to worry about money (as in the bills get paid, sometimes it's tight, but we do fine) I find that I tend to slide back to the era in odd ways.
I have mid-century furniture (late 30s-early 40s), I use my dressing table, I can food, my "desk" is a secretary from the 20s...and I use a 1927 Singer treadle with the same techniques they would have. Not to say I don't have modern things (hello, deep freezer), since I do. My taste in clothing is what I like, which can be pretty much anything I want to wear since I make it anyway.
Whatever the term you apply, sure you can have it. I regret going into a store to look at clothes for my 2 year old and have to choose from inappropriate or adult. I miss not being able to do a lot of things I never actually experienced first hand, and some things I did get to as an oddity in my childhood.
But is it the actual time period, or the feeling/lifestyle/attitude of the times? If it's the former, then for me the answer would be no, but certainly portable on the ideas of the time.